The Christian's life in this world...

Lots of children and unaccompanied minors are finding their way to the borders of our country. As a parent I can't understand how parents can allow them to travel unaccompanied so many miles and allow them to be subject to all kinds of dangers from cartels and other sinful people and dangers.  This situation is being politicized.  I don't care what the Democrats or the Republicans want to do, I want to know how God wants us to handle this.  I have listed a number of passages to help us and guide us.  I would like your thoughts...

Romans 13:1-7

Deuteronomy 6:7

Proverbs 22:6

II Corinthians 12:14

Ephesians 6:4

Titus 2:4

Galatians 6: 9-10

The passages above speak to Christian parents.  Is it an assumption that those who would send their chidren all alone aren't Christian people?  Please tell me what you know and think and give us thoughts about all this.

 

    

Topic Discussion

Posted by Paul Lemke on
My initial thoughts on these passages.

Romans 13:1-7
Our government requires coming into this country through proper channels. Our own government is not even following these rules.

Deuteronomy 6:7
What does this teach your children? It's ok to enter a country illegally to obtain a better life?

Proverbs 22:6
Many of these people are catholic. See my previous comment.

II Corinthians 12:14
Sending your children young children to do this alone, does that show love? Especially that you seem unwilling to go through this hard journey with them?

Titus 2:4
See previous comment

Galatians 6:9-10
To what extent should we go to help them if at all. On one hand they are breaking many laws. On the other they are people in need and we as Christians need to show Love. Very confusing.
Posted by Melissa on
What a hot topic to discuss, honestly have not put much thought into it until I read the passages. Is saying it is a conundrum out of line?
Posted by Pastor Zahn on
I did put those passages up to get you to think about principles that guide a Christian. The problem is that these passages guide a Christian, but what about the many who might not be Christian? People will do godly things when they are godly. These passages might not mean a thing to those who aren't.

Do we then accept these children and share the Good news of Jesus and pray God will through his Spirit change their hearts? Do we have a plan in place so that the Gospel can be preached to them? Do the Christian groups that are ministering to them (at one time they were being kept from these people) teach sin and grace besides ministering to their physical needs. Does our government even allow that to happen? Our government has become unfriendly to the message of Christ.
Posted by Tim on
A couple interesting facts that bear notice.
1. The parents have pay (some say $6-8,000) for the handlers to get their kid(s) to US and to cross border illegally. If they have those kind of resources,why can't they send them a $350 one-way ticket home?
2. The President encouraged these nations to send their kids when he announced that children from non-border nations reaching the US would not be turned back. Some people say that is not the intent of the law. Common sense shows its not good policy. The question could be that do we obey a government or agency/branch that is in itself "lawless" or not providing good order and protection? Those were the true purposes of God's use of and commands regarding government.
3. Acts 5-29 Strict orders from the authority of that day were disobeyed by the Apostles because it was contrary to God's Word. Would this be a case of that?
4. Although there are some faith-based organizaions that have been assisting with the care of these children, I don't know if they are allowed to share the Gospel. I pray they can. I suspect that is restricted, like the US's restrictions in place in when I was in Iraq. That even applied to Chaplains at the time. Although, like Iraq, personal testimony and private discourse does occur as God does not allow man to dictate restrictions on the spread of his Holy Word.
6. We should not accept them as potential citizens of this nation, as they are not here legally and it seems to me most have means to get back. The US Gov't also can fly them home much more inexpensively than to feed and care for them for years on end. We should assist them and those who would be giving Christian care while they are here with goal of getting them back to their homes as safely and as quickly as possible. President Obama needs to then discourage this from happening again. If he doesn't, then we will know he has some negative and lawless intent.
Tim
Posted by Tim on
A couple interesting facts that need to be considered.
1. The parents have pay (some say $6-8,000) for the handlers to get their kid(s) to US and to cross border illegally. If they have those kind of resources,why can't they send them a $350 one-way ticket home?
2. The President encouraged these nations to send their kids when he announced that children from non-border nations reaching the US would not be turned back. Some people say that is not the intent of the law. Common sense shows its not good policy. The question could be that do we obey a government or agency/branch that is in itself "lawless" or not providing good order and protection? Those were the true purposes of God's use of and commands regarding government.
3. Strict orders from the authority of that day were disobeyed by the Apostles because it was contrary to God's Word. Would this be a case of that?
4. Although there are some faith-based organizaions that have been assisting with the care of these children, I don't know if they are allowed to share the Gospel. I pray they can. I suspect that is restricted, like the US's restrictions in place in when I was in Iraq. That even applied to Chaplains at the time. Although, like Iraq, personal testimony and private discourse does occur as God does not allow man to dictate restrictions on the spread of his Holy Word.
6. We should not accept them as potential citizens of this nation, as they are not here legally and it seems to me most have means to get back. The US Gov't also can fly them home much more inexpensively than to feed and care for them for years on end. We should assist them and those who would be giving Christian care while they are here with goal of getting them back to their homes as safely and as quickly as possible. President Obama needs to then discourage this from happening again. If he doesn't, then we will know he has some negative and lawless intent.
Tim
Posted by David on
Being a Christian, having read the Bible many times, and having studied other religions and theologies, I am still in a quandary in search of my own opinion. First, of several thoughts: As a Christian, I will help all who are in need to the best of my ability. I feel "I am my brothers keeper". I have learned repeatedly, especially in Viet Nam and Rhodesia, "BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOR THERE GO I".
After Jesus taught the masses and divided up the fishes and loaves of bread, he sent the masses on their way. (Mark).

It is hard to reach the dichotomy of being a Christian and following THE WAY, but it is also hard to follow scripture when it refers to following government laws.

I do not any longer believe in the current government, political correctness, nor liberals. I believe that these "illegal immigrants" are political strategy that are being used for political gains. Therefore I suggest that we treat everyone as Jesus would do. Heal where we humbly can, feed and clothe all, THEN send them on their way home.

In this country, at this time in our lives, we know we can not protect everyone, we can not feed everyone. There are many in our country that are homeless, hungry, and in need. My University's motto is, "Let each become all they are capable of being". How do we decide who to save, who to feed , who to help? Assuredly, if I had only one loaf of bread and had to choose either to feed my family or others who are starving. I would need to pray and pray and pray more. Not for guidance, not for compassion, but for forgiveness for making a choice of whom to feed, which would be my family. I wonder if I would be angry with my God for making me make that choice and making me live with the choice I had to make.
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